Summoning as a epic black metal band?

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Ungolianth	Summoning as a epic black metal band?	Lead	[-]
Posts: 1605 (04/28/09 00:12) Da Sneaky Git Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None Well, ive been thinking lately about all this evolvment of metal and it seams weird to me that more and more Epic Black Metal band walks over into the overly electronic area of existing. Few are those who linger on in the blurred and grey dimension of using samplings alltogether and more and more becomes syntezisers with growls. Me persoanlly have nothing aginst this but what have it really become? A few try to nich out and calls them self Black Ambient or whatever but the feelings of the music is still overtly black. The more I think of it the less I view Summoning as a black metal band, hell its not even metal anymore but what is it? Im not complaining, im just confused to whatever or not the instruments are a indicator of what music one play or the style. Oh yea I thought id slam it into yer faces should ye have missed that Eöl put up his cover on Kortirion among the trees on his Myspace. Its good imho opinion, dont beat the original but that would be hard.. Kortirion Among the Tree by Elffor Last Edited By: Ungolianth 04/28/09 00:22. Edited 1 time.
Putrid Wind		#1	[-]
Posts: 1279 (04/28/09 03:21) Euro Dance DJ Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Epic Black Metal for me is distinct from Black/Ambient Metal through what keyboard samples it uses and what themes it explores. Epic Black Metal will always be a somewhat romanticized version of black metal, full of orchestral synths and neo-classical ideas. Ambient Black Metal on the other hand uses synths primarily for spacey and string sounds, like Darkspace, and focuses more on dark themes. I think the band that ties the two genres. together is Paysage d'Hiver. Summoning is juts Summoning, dunno what genre haha.
Ungolianth		#2	[-]
Posts: 1608 (04/28/09 06:55) Da Sneaky Git Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Yea I know all the nifty definitions but sometimes its just a load of bull if you ask me. I mean sure there are ambient parts to darkspace but more so theres harsh/powerelectronics and I dont see any Power Electronics Black Metal bands :P
Lord Curufinwe		#3	[-]
Posts: 2009 (04/28/09 11:40) Mastercensor Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I dont think instruments really name the styles. Its just the music. I think instruments are just what they are called "instruments". Hell, if I had a magic Orb, which translates my thoughts into music I'll dont think about it another second. It all evolves and as long as it has the essence, I'm not complaining.
Putrid Wind		#4	[-]
Posts: 1281 (04/28/09 15:06) Euro Dance DJ Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I dunno MZ 412 could be power electronics black metal. :P I think every genre does have it's core instruments that indicate what style the music is.
Spinal Villain		#5	[-]
Posts: 137 (04/29/09 10:00) Madasfokk Metalsaur Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Epic to me is the feel of the songs and the essence of the album in general. Longer songs naturally feel more "epic" in nature. Opeth and Throne of Katarsis come to mind, but they themselves have yet to claim any 'epicness' in their respective genre titles. Thought provoking would be a big plus also, and they get a bit of a helping hand from Tolkien. I never really considered the use or lack of instruments for something to be or not be "epic". I dunno, it's hard to describe. In either case, it begs the question...If, at the end of a record, you don't feel compelled to say "Damn...that was epic as fuck", is it truly epic then, regardless of labeling??
Maeglin Black		#6	[-]
Posts: 578 (05/01/09 03:33) Jaded Metal Punk Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Just as their theme and aesthetic would suggest, I've always imagined Summoning as music from another world - great orc marches and elven compositions using strange instruments. :P The first album was definitely black metal, after that they wandered into uncharted territory (where they continue to dwell alone, as far as I'm concerned).
VenterHelvete		#7	[-]
Posts: 695 (05/01/09 07:14) Midnight Possessor Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Ungolianth wrote: Yea I know all the nifty definitions but sometimes its just a load of bull if you ask me. I mean sure there are ambient parts to darkspace but more so theres harsh/powerelectronics and I dont see any Power Electronics Black Metal bands :P I think too many bands have made their own name for what their style of metal is. I think the amount of titles for styles of music is a bit ridiculous. But you could totally start the title Power Electronic Black Metal. Go for it! Be a pioneer! ''I don't know why I'm into Satanism. I don't know why I like cheeseburgers, but there must be something. It's great!'' - Fenriz
Ungolianth		#8	[-]
Posts: 1621 (05/04/09 08:25) Da Sneaky Git Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Putrid Wind wrote: I dunno MZ 412 could be power electronics black metal. :P I think every genre does have it's core instruments that indicate what style the music is. MZ.412 is a borderliner, but since some albums are pure electro and some with hints of black its hard to say =P
Anal Violator		#9	[-]
Posts: 3 (09/28/09 11:11) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Ungolianth wrote: The more I think of it the less I view Summoning as a black metal band, hell its not even metal anymore but what is it? It's a style that grew out of black metal. Graveland's later works experiment with the same thing, as Burzum did (without so much keyboard) on middle works. So did Emperor, on In the Nightside Eclipse, although they wanted to be louder. I like the long melodies, lower influence on beats (reminds me of Immortal's 2nd) and epic atmosphere. Summoning fjucking rules.
Jorundr		#10	[-]
Posts: 14 (10/03/09 09:48) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	one side note; listen to "Attende", a song of 'Mistur' , a band with ex-windir members. That song is epic

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